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OK well I wanted to start this thread in order to discuss the issue of FORCED VACCINATION against a human beings wishes. For this first post I will just leave it quite brief to see what comments , if any are felt on this very urgent of issues affecting the global population at this time.

How would you feel in being told, you are required by law to be injected and have a forced vaccination ? You are required to obey and to submit . Is that ok with you or not ?

How far would you go in order to stand up for your rights ? If you care to, please share your thoughts on this topic..

It has been said before that , " The only rights you have, are those that you are prepared to die for " does forced vaccination do it for you ?

Lets talk about it....


thank you..

Come on some one post something they are talking about mandatory Vaccinations in Parliament soon ??

Definitely not. It's quite hard to separate the hype from the facts on this issue, but I find it interesting, and a little scary, that the WHO say:

"During a pandemic, it may be necessary to overrule existing legislation or (individual) human rights. Examples are the enforcement of quarantine (overruling individual freedom of movement), use of privately owned buildings for hospitals, off-license use of drugs, compulsory vaccination"

I find it hard to believe that it would be made mandatory and yet I believe that has already happened in Greece?

Well JKS I do not want to alarm you, but in my family they have received call up papers for the pandemic outbreak. Whether you like it or not, in my house is a letter calling nurses to sign up for any outbreak. Yes I was shocked , why ? well this manufactured swine flu, and it is man made, has not wiped out millions has it, when did we hear of it last year mexico ? A good while back anyhow , we are already at global level 6 which means your local council does not need to get new laws passed in parliament in order to execute emergencies as they may seem fit ...

Including, vaccinate all residents, take them to quarantine and martial law I expect. Civil emergencies act .

Now if it comes down to it people may have to face a prison sentence or be injected against their wishes. I have told folks in my family, I'll die for this right to not have anything jabbed into me against my will . I just cannot do it. Especially as there a criminal complaint been filed against the WHO and the UN for the contaminated vaccine .

But a letter sits in my kitchen which is calling up 90,000 nurses in readiness .

I can believe it more in the US than in the UK, specifically in terms of punishing those who refuse. From some of the things I've read, the general view is that even if it becomes mandatory in the UK, they won't actually force anyone who refuses - I know that doesn't quite make sense, but it does sound very British doesn't it.

I can't express it as passionately as you, but I'm definitely against any kind of mandatory vaccination, how far I'd go to stand up for my rights on that though I don't know.

Ok well maybe just be guided what you have to do for you... Thats all we can ask of ourselves. I dont like the way its being hyped when doctors here have said, actually its been very mild symptoms, less than normal flu, and , its too early to say use the vaccine as its effects are still not known.....

All well and good / sensible, so why .... is the WHO /UN pumping it up to level 6 when its really been no real threat for last 12 months ? Some folk say the virus will spread by people having the vaccine. That will be the start of it...


how far you go ? well think about it , get that resolved either way, you don't wont to be having doubts at last moment. Health pro's in my family so I will be able to see what hospitals are gearing up for, general vibes on the wards n such.

But for a mild flu it does seem odd to talk and legislate for mandatory vaccines. And the more people who say NO WAY TO FORCE then hopefully that may influence , who knows and that is somewhat irrelevant as the WHO will have jurisdiction over POLICE and Health on the planet.

I hope that criminal complaint filed against them is resolved before they start pumping the cure into people......

I think the _only_ person talking about this is you.

We need the first Swarb book: the collected posts of Magnacarta1215.

dls/fh, putting aside what you think of MC, do you not think this is a real issue then?

Not in the way suggested.

There are issues for example in the flouridation of water supplies.

Consider (with hindsight) the 1919 pandemic

The world-wide death toll was greater than the casualties of WW1. If there had been a vaccine that was effective in preventing (say) 80% of the deaths, should the governments have insisted on compulsory vaccination?
The success of vaccination isn't necessarily the protection of an individual, but the fact that it prevents the disease from spreading throughout the population (see recent cases of measles as an example).

To that end, I'd argue that a government has a duty to protect the population as a whole - to carry this out it may be necessary to balance an individual's rights against those of the whole population.

Remember also that the 1919 pandemic was a strain of flu that had a rapid onset and high mortality rate (< 24 hours from fit to dead). Once you have it, it's too late for a vaccination programme). Also flu epideics tend to start, die down , then return about 6 months later - often in a more virulent form.

If the government had ignored the possibility, then how many people would think of that as irresponsible? (Before and then after)?

Lastly, where does this garbage about "man-made epidemic" come from? any reliable sources?

CP09

And also consider with hindsight the 1976 outbreak of swine flu in the US, where more people died from the vaccine than the disease itself.

I take on board what you're saying about protecting society, but the potential of forcing people to have something injected into them, which could in itself cause serious health issues (Google Swine Flu vaccine and Guillain-Barré Syndrome), just doesn't sit right with me.

Where's Alex? He likes to talk about the rights of individuals vs the rights of society.

I also take your point dls about flouridation of water and suchlike.

Right well why not contact the science journo herself? She has lawyers in her family apparently as she said they told her what she needed to do to file a criminal complaint based on her findings.

The government also has a duty to WAIT until the criminal complaint has been investigated ? Or should they ignored it a shoot up the nation and hope ? We are also told that those who have been infected in the UK that it is a mild flu anyhow, so why force vaccinate when its far from deadly ? That doesn't make sense unless the motive is, to get the Vaccine in everyone ON THE ENTIRE PLANET ?

Open minds , but criminal complaint has been filed and the virus is mild. Hold the jab ? take it ? Shouldn't it be a choice? , self quarantine ?



Update from Natural News:

“(NaturalNews) If you are living in the U.S. or many other parts of the world, you may soon be forced to accept a vaccination that is actually a biological weapon created with the intent of causing your death or injury, according to evidence compiled by journalist Jane Burgermeister. To defend yourself and your countrymen you can now take legal steps using documents she has created specifically for this purpose. After many days of intense effort and two failed attempts due to hackers, Jane has these documents ready to be downloaded. She gives them freely with the hope that others will follow her lead in standing up for their rights while there is still time.

Any person can call his or her local district court and find out how to file a criminal complaint as a private citizen. Then complete the blanks in her Criminal Charges document, and hand it in. This document is a 112 page comprehensive masterpiece reflecting months of exhaustive evidence gathering and assembly. It exemplifies a dogged devotion to purpose and cause….”

Health worker vids protesting against FORCED VACCINATION will be sacked this November stateside- short clips 1-2 mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScjAG9tF ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZX-WmVG ... _embedded#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7wBwOEs ... re=related

MC,

This is a forum for the discussion of UK law. Law is jurisdictional - it differs hugely from one jurisdiction to the next, and the law of one jurisdiction usually has no implications for another.

There are limited exceptions in that we have agreed to accept certain European law, and we still impose certain laws on England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland - but that is a completely different story.

Outside those very limited exceptions, the laws and practices of the US, of Mars, and of some imagined ecumenical sub-garden of heaven are not at all relevant. They are not.

One hour interview with Jane Burgermeister, journalist re swine flu criminal complaint.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelTWCUmTsU