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OK We need to ensure the STATE starts educating our children in rules and laws that the STATE says people must comply with.

If a human can be criminally liable at aged 8 what then are all the rules that individual is obligated to abide by ? In order for one to know what laws/rules he cannot break he must be taught them in order to know when not to breach them.

So what does your school teach it's 8 year old kids with regards to the laws that the state says he or she must obey ?

©Mc2015® Is a campaign needed to ensure all our children are fully law schooled in all rules they are required to know.

So at this stage , I ask who has the "obligation of duty" to ensure the kids are educated in the child's countries own laws ?


Thank you, and I look forward to your support to ensure kids from the age 6 and up are taught law by the year 2015 in all our schools !

©Mc2015® Justice For All ~ 800 years in the making !

If it were up to me, I would move back the age of criminal responsibility and re-instate the test for criminal awareness - if probably updated. We are almost uniquely good in the world at criminalising our children. I do not believe for a second that our children are more evil than those of other countries or that they are failing to deal properly with their children. We seem to feel no shame in treating our children badly.

As it stands, adults are clearly incapable of understanding the law in its detail.

Treating your question seriously, as to the law, children need to understand assault and dishonesty laws, but not much more.

Very much more generally, I think we all start life as utterly self-centered superficial monomaniacs, but physically quite unable to do anything about it as babies. When grown up, we have the full physical capacity to misbehave, but have managed to acquire enough sense of others to restrain that capacity. In between, one the two capacities grow at different speeds. Crime occurs when physical capacity exceeds internalised restraint (whether that is called discipline or morality or otherwise). That is why so much crime is committed by adolescents, and why so many adolescents simply grow out of it.

Thank you Dls.



Ok well how about when in school we actually start to teach them to internalise with regards to rules/laws that the state claims they must obey ?

Ignorance of the law is not a defence some claim, but who has the obligation and legal duty to ensure kids have been taught the rules they must comply with ?

To me it is unacceptable to do nothing about informing everyone in detail what rules they are to obey. To make rules up and not educate people or even bother to attempt to teach them state codes is negligence of a duty of care to ensure that the states own "consenting citizens" have sight of the rules in order to know when not to breach them.

I'm not surprised adults cannot understand law in it's detail, and that's BY DESIGN as law is used not to protect peoples rights and freedoms, but as behaviour control and to drive revenues. Again if we start educated kids aged 6 up for 10/12 years at school will they be likely to have more understanding of laws they must obey or have less understanding ?

It cannot continue to allow people to be abused by not informing them. And I do see it as abuse of responsibility .

Good lawyers are not born but they are made. Anyone can understand any topic if they are exposed to the learning of it on a regular basis.



Ok can someone from the Crown put that in writing so all our children are aware again of what it is the state says they must obey ?

If not, then that needs to change. The thing is the state seems to want a "Lawful Society" , but how do they think they will achieve that if the state doesn't even bother to put law on its basic education programs ?

The con and deception is too obvious. "Everyone is assumed to know the law" (Ministry of Justice)

No parent would dare to continue to create rules without informing the child of them, then punish their children for violating them based on ignorance. How cruel is that ?

So why is it acceptable that we allow a Corporation to do it in this year still ?

Ministry of Justice tell me , We don't promote teaching schoolkids laws they must obey, Judiciary do not get involved in promoting awareness in schools either. And so the ignorance continues. Again by design isn't it ? No one seems too bothered .

And that is a crime against humanity from adults who really ought to know better.


So open to all with the first question,

" Who has the obligation and legal duty to ensure kids have been taught the rules they must comply with ? "




2015, the clocks ticking, we can effect change.


Thank you.

Nobody has a legal obligation or duty to teach them this in any detail.

The nearest you will get is citizenship classes.
perhaps it is a duty which falls on each of us to learn these things, and a parental duty to persuade their children of the need for them to learn such law as they will need.

Ok well in this snippet below it seems to mean as long as its issued by his majesty's stationary office, and unless reasonable steps are taken to inform folks of the content of the instrument then any persons are assumed to be informed.

Now what about all those folks without internet, disabled men women kids ,who cannot travel to a library , how have they been informed of the fluid law they must obey? Should we not have a real time law printout in our schools now hot wired to His Majesty's Office so the people can be in the know with the law, of course, I would need to ensure the law is written in common usuage Language that any 8 year old can actually understand if they are compelled to obey it, for it not to be so, would make it null and void and again negligence of duty .

Hmmm, is His Majesty Legally obligated to ensure his laws are written in language that the end users are familiar with and can actually under-stand, or stand under with consent ? I'm sure a King wouldn't want to be seen hoodwinking kids by using a language and written form that was completely over their heads ? The Crown can be sued and can sue so I've read, so is the Crown Liable ?


Statutory Instruments Act 1946 (c.36) Para 3.2






With regards to citizenship classes. Yes I have a phone number to ring to have a chat about my concerns and getting our kids brought up to speed with having to know the law they must obey etc, as they will be seen as being liable for any breaches n all, I need to see what our schools are doing about this, as I'm concerned that when they leave school 16-18 years etc, even as adults, most are still ignorant yet here they are, educated and out in the real world, and operating under some form of a limited liability for their actions.

I will update in new year my experiences with "citizenship class objectives" and the thinking/ sponsoring thoughts behind it. Should be interesting to hear what the educators think kids should be taught balanced against what the state thinks they are now potential liable for at various ages n such and to see if any light bulbs in heads fire up.

Well substitute 'if' for 'unless' and recognise that reasonable is a word with easy stretches, and you have it right.

Ok thank you dls, I did reread it and thought I'd muddled it up a bit, but let it go....... me being lazy on the detail and easy on myself . I'll ring the Kings stationary office I expect to see if they are up for a bit of aiding transparency looking ahead with making a better effort to ensure all end users have been notified a bit better.

I guess it depends if there is any sense of caring being transmitted by the makers of such instruments. What does lift my spirits somewhat is that underneath official capacity lurks humans.

There is one issue here that explains why society has lost its way. Religion or should that be the lack of. As kids we were all brought up to understand the 10 commandments and the 7 sins BUT since our kids no longer get religious education there has been nothing introduced to replace it. Persionally I think religion has one objective - control - it has always been Political and run by those who rule over us, but it was always a good way to teach the masses, the peasants about the rights and wrongs of the world. The current rules and policy of PC has detroyed exactly what it was proposed to demand - respect and understanding, but then PC is complete balloxxx and its another government policy to control us.

Religion is abused by the elders and adhered to by the masses, and this still happens today, there are some who think their position entitles them to abuse others when in truth it only exposes their real intentions.