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Following on from that thread about waving knives at burglars, I was wondering what lemgths you would go to to protect yourself and your home from attack?

A knife wont protect you against any one, if you do use a knife they would probably only return with something worse, so you could well be putting yourself in even more danger. What will they return with next time? If you have something they want they will find a way to get it, take it from you and take it for themselves, a knife wont stop them (delay maybe), if anything only encourage.

I have been robbed and told not to go near them, oh so they know who them are do they, or it will be me who is prosecuted not them. So if you do get robbed, you even know who it is what can you do what should you do? You way as well not report it all you get is a crime number, the Police wont do anything to help you - its not a high priority it doesnt generate revenue and income. Trying to stop them or attempt to get your items back could be a very dangerous step to take, one you should consider very seriously before taking any action. The state wont protect you if you do, only prosecute you and you only set yourself up as a potential target for further problems in the future.

Just another example of the connection and collusion between criminals the Police and state.

I know some people will think frank is a tad unrealistic in his views. For the record, i understand in this post exactly what he is suggesting, is it correct, damn right he is. Keep it up frank, you'll get there in the end. the truth is more powerful than they can ever imagine.

The way I look at life and especially the Uk Justice System is if people dont like what I say its either:
They dont want to believe the truth
There not intelligent enough to understand what I think imply and suggest
They have something to hide be afraid of and probably one of the bad ones - guilty themselves !!! (no naming names)

Its simple Ive been there I know from personal experience and from my experience the Uk Criminal Justice System is sick to the core !!
By design on purpose as its only there to assist Government justify Policies and to waste substantial amounst of tax payers money
and allow many a Legal Bod to earn loads of dosh

It's not necessarily that people don't like what you say, it's just that when you keep repeating the same things over and over, it doesn't strengthen your points, it weakens them, people switch off and don't hear what you're saying any more. As I said in the other thread, I get where you're coming from, and you have yourself recognised that you can be your own worst enemy at times, I really wish you would internalise that properly, for your sake alone.

Who knows how you should treat a burglar.

We came downstairs to find one a few years ago. The maniacs among us might have gone off the end. It was a girl about eighteen and considerably the worse for something(s). We called the police and sat her in the kitchen and gave her a cup of tea. I do not think her intentions were in any sense good, but nor were they clear, and there wasn't much of her.

Yes swim you are right and its something I have to deal with, think about address and sort out. I have 2 computers I use with 2 screens one even runs multiple virtual sessions so I dont have to log out into other profiles, I have 3 addies for the different interests I have frankie, the real me and my project. Maybe I should create a page with all my rants and put it in all my signatures would be the answer? I answer all posts as though I never posted before unless I read what I said above in the thread which I often do to understand the flow. It is a problem I know one I admit openly and one I must address. My apologies but it is something I am trying to deal with, HONESTLY !!

A very dangerous thing to do IMO - she might well have sued you because the tea was too hot.

If it had been our son who caught her, dont think his intentions would have been good either.

Maybe it is us who are wrong for switching off? Perhaps it is Frank who is right for simply sticking to his guns? I fail to see why repeating his contention 'weakens' his argument and perhaps that says more about us?

Rant or not ... he rarely changes the script and that I think is pivotal in that he maintains his stance. AND many agree with him!

Fair point staffies, I shouldn't have spoken for other people on the board. I shall correct it by saying that for me, if someone keeps repeating the same thing over and over, often in a ranting way, it makes me switch off and stop listening to what they're saying, and therefore not give it the consideration it may well deserve.

Hope that's better

Hi JKS

Actually I am the same as you ... however in Frank's case I feel it is different and it is disingenuous to diminish it or dismiss it as others do.

He has significant experience and evidence that can be correlated - whatever others on here will no doubt say - of what he is talking about. Additionally he has been subject to such a travesty of justice and lost so much that this leads to his method of expression coming out as acerbic and venomous at times. He specifically targets those he sees at the centre of his ills and actually having been part the way of his journey I know why and fully understand. I do however tend to approach things differently and Frank and myself have talked about that!

But I tend to switch one ear off with Frank and try to see his context because as myself and others have said and will continue to say he is right on certain issues. People on here get defensive and try and justify their positions and professions. We all do it in our respective professions. However when one meets someone who has first hand been hurt by it, it is silly to not listen.

Frank continues to rant because there is a lack of acceptance and these injustices keep on being propagated.

Yes, and I don't think I have tried to dispute anything that Frank is actually saying, merely suggested that his methods for saying them might not always serve him well. But then if I keep saying that too many times, I'll be guilty of the same thing myself! Hehe.

I rant on the details I firmly believe are true, and those beliefs (actions) have made me extremely angry. The believes wont change, they cant, the actions will certainly never change, therefore I doubt neither will my anger towards those responisble and what some represent. I apologised when subjecting those who shouldnt be targetted whilst hold no sympathy against those its aimed at. I usually dont let things bother me, forgive and forget but in this instance - not a chance. It was no accident, it was calculated sinister and organised they had an objective and broke MANY criminal laws to achieve it - we broke NONE.

If anyone else had said it I would not have believed it!

It reminds me of a scene from one of my daughter’s books;

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I think you have to be very careful tackling a burglar. Look what happened to Tony Martin.

I remember a story from America where on Christmas Eve a man heard a burglar down the stairs. He took his gun went down the stairs and shot at the burglar. When he turned the light on he realised that he had shot dead his 9 year old daughter.

The most valuable thing in my house is my family. If someone breaks into my house they can have what they want as long as they leave my family alone.